Thursday, May 19, 2011

XSKY is it Spam? or is it a real Tool?

Lets be Honest and professional
Can a tool designed to broadcast something Be taken seriously as a marketing tool or as an attempt to build the latest spam tool.


I ask that every one weigh in No one will be sued due to the fact that everything here is An opinion all proof introduced is only good for public opinion.

Lets keep it clean and professional but tell the world what is on your mind about this product called XSKY software.

And that is my traffic exchange 2 cents

James Dias
http://it247.co/

21 comments:

  1. Since it's my opinion.. I can categorically say, I will never use XSKY. I generally abhor and avoid any automation tools. I wouldn't "spam" in email on facebook or twitter. Anyone that tries to connect with me on Skype this way, gets an automatic block.

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  2. Do you really want my opinion. I think enough has been said. But Here is my opinion anyway.

    http://www.craigcaron.com/xsky-sucks-review

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  3. Igster I tend to agree with you here I dont know all the facts and peoples views are strong.

    Craig I have read you blog top to bottom but it is one sided and while you may have valid pionts there I wanted to offer people a palce that ( I hope is equal)

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  4. I had seen Jared Silvers blog review on it and I realize that is what started this. (Good or bad, ya gotta LOVE a post that gets reactions/comments like that!)
    Personally, I have only seen the XSky splash around at various TE's, so I don't really know that much, but I do know, I have enough in my inbox from TE owners and "Gurus", let alone some of the safelist owners, that really qualify as SPAM, except I ok'ed them to send them. I suppose that if someone is ok with getting the ads through that tool, they will. They can always opt out, just as they can with anything else.
    Thanks James and no, I wasn't including you in that list...:)

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  5. ROFL Thanks Dan
    with this much reaction I am trying to learn Im watching videos and reading blogs



    I did find 2 videos that Are basicly SPAM tips LOL


    in the video he demonstrates how to send out unsolicited skypes to people named Tom the sad part in the video he also says and I quote " its sending out a message to all those Toms I don’t KNOW" thank you Robert Blakley AKA the blakster this is one of the major reason people are having such a tough time with this software

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsSCcrnGctc


    In Cory Crabb’s video he is getting banned and keeps coming back and preached to people to back up the account so that you can keep send people the unsolicited skypes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMhL8g9S5lA


    Just from the last two examples I have seen there is a major problem with unsolicited skypes

    FYI they are also the first and only 2 I watched. Leading me to believe that Xsky Is a spam tool. It may have a real side to it but is clouded by the fact people are going to use it the wrong way. And the features from what I am seeing are enabling this to happen couple that with a affiliate program and greed sets in for people to spam to get more money.

    But again Correct me if I am wrong

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  6. Really? Another spam tool to make us hate being on a certain network. I thought the best part about the first video James was they taught you how to search someone up by there first name and send a generic message to everyone with that same first name. Someone found a way to devalue Skype. We should of known it was coming sometime. Thanks everyone for revealing this "New Tool" for what it really is, the spam tool of the century.

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  8. James I definitely understand.

    It might be one sided but don't see too many blogs out their on xsky that are not one sided.

    James the whole debate started with a post I wrote about a month and a half ago in the warrior forum

    It started out good with a few opinions on the tool.

    We started talking about everyone getting spammed by this new tool and the training structure that xksy was teaching people with subtle ways of spam.

    Another part to the training in these Skype chat rooms even goes on to show people how to use the xSky product to capture the user details of every person in every chat room session they've ever been in...

    In other words, if you really think about it, people are being set up to give their contacts away, and the bottom line is this... You have to ask yourself who is the primary beneficiary of that type of training? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out it isn’t you… no, it is the people organizing, promoting and doing the training of course. Not only will you show up in that room, but you’ll most likely bring some of your best contacts with you.

    As you can see in some of the videos you have already mentioned.

    That is how it really all started. From their, the owner of xsky decided he was going to bash me on warrior forum with no success.

    He had to actually make 8 of his members sign up to the warrior forum just to bash me and some of the other big players in the warrior forum.

    Needless to say the moderators took down the post because it was just a bunch of trash talk.

    Then 1 month later Todd unsubscribes from my email list and sends me a pretty hateful email.

    33 emails from him in the last 3 days trash talking me just for stating my opinion.

    My take and other members in my network chalk it up as. He is still upset at me and others in my network for kicking him out for cross promoting and spamming others in the group.

    I assure this is not a personal vendetta against him at all. I have nothing against the guy.

    All I wanted was to express my opinion on xsky and he seemed to want to take it to another level.

    I am just not one to lay down and take it.

    I respect everyone and respect alot of you guys in the industry. Matter of fact I hold high regards for alot of you.

    I just look at it like this. Like my friend Nancy says, it will all come out in the wash sooner or later.

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  9. Hey James, thanks for putting your post here to my attention, kudos! :)

    I spotted someone mentioning Jared Silver's name. He took down his blogpost, and contacted me. He, like yourself, wanted to know from the source itself, how we do things.

    First off, we don't teach people to spam. In fact, the nanosecond you hover your mouse over the Send Message button, a banner drops down, reminding you what you agreed to, upon signing up for xSky and Skype (and those links specifically point to the section that talks about spam).

    As we have said before: xSky is a tool, and tools dont spam people - People USE the tool to spam people.

    E-Mail is a tool, and there is no other tool that has been abused more than E-Mail.

    The whole issue here, is that the "victims" are blaming the tool that is being promoted/used, when in reality they should be blaming the sender.

    However, if we WERE teaching people to spam, THEN you have every right to blame us. But you can ask Jared about that, he even mentioned that he may do another blogpost about how xSky should be used, and I give him much respect for that.

    Here is the Broadcaster, with the banner:
    www.xSkySoftware.com/xSkyAntiSpam.png

    The people who acuse us for teaching how to Spam, please, investigate yourself, rather than having little spys do it for you.

    I hope this clears up a few things.

    Excuse my bad english, its not my native language.

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  10. Hey James, thanks for posting brother.

    I'm not sure I really understand your
    comment toward my video when I express
    creating a relationship, and no links
    were sent in any demonstration.

    However, I think it's like any other
    tool, it needs to be understood for what
    it is.

    Personally, I can't vouch for people
    that misuse this tool for spam purposes
    get their accounts banned, or even for
    those that are STUPID enough to be drunk
    in rooms and talk trash, and give others
    a bad name.

    All, I know is I create relationships, then group people based on their interests.

    Then if they want to receive information
    from me they do.

    Currently, I have roughly 250 people that are happy to receive a weekly message from me on
    my generic trainings to help others succeed.

    Imagine copy and pasting to that many people.. Wheew..

    As far as sending a message to a bunch of Tom's, I don't know, Isn't that what networking is? Reaching out to new people, Finding what they need and getting it for them?

    Those that don't want to be included
    simply ask me not to include them,
    I place a command in my window and
    move about my day.

    You see again it's all in how you look
    at things and whether you use a tool
    the way it's intended right?

    You wouldn't dig a hole with a shovel
    would you? Then why Spam with a Messenger?
    ( To those using xSky as a personal
    Spam bot. ) Its not titled "xSky Spamming
    Tool"

    A few things are for sure though,
    It saves me lots of time, and is
    very effective for starting a conversation,
    and the creator Jeff Hansen is a
    good person.

    How is it any different then using
    the other 2 competitiors? I would have
    to say it's way better!

    More personable, and as long as people
    use it for the way it was intended,
    then I don't see an issue with it.

    It's obvious that those that are upset with this tool understandably received the raw end from the people that used it incorrectly to put a bad taste in peoples mouths. Sorry that happened.

    To me, I see things for what they are and use them accordingly. So I hope this helps and again thanks for posting and allowing us to state our facts and opinions, It's what makes the world go around and helps people educate themselves pro or con.

    Thanks again.

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  11. Hello James -

    In your title here and in your video - you are asking is xSky Spam? or is it a real tool?

    First xSky itself should not be referenced to as spam.

    Spam is:

    1 - the act of sending electronic junk mail: an unsolicited, often commercial, message transmitted through the Internet as a mass mailing to a large number of recipients.

    2 - send unwanted e-mail: to send an unsolicited e-mail message, often an advertisement, to many people

    3 - post unwanted electronic messages: to post a message many times to a newsgroup, or an inappropriate message to multiple newsgroups


    As by definition of SPAM - xSky is not SPAM it is a tool.

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    Now I do agree that there are people who are actually using xSky software to send SPAM and when it is brought to our attention we take corrective actions.

    As with everything - you have the right to choose not to receive messages from whom ever you do not want to.... if after requesting that they stop sending you messages and the continue to do so, the best thing would be to contact xSky support and let us know and we will take corrective actions to stop it.

    The xSky tool was never meant to be used in a fashion that some are using it for.

    I for one - use it to send broadcasts out to different groups that has requested to receive my broadcast on that particular subject. Sending the messages out one by one would be to time consuming.

    And of course - if they do not wish to receive the broadcast any longer than simply request to be removed from the list, and I respect their decision and take them off my list.

    You can ask Craig Caron - he asked me to not send him any broadcasts and I added him to my do not send to/ignore list built into the xSky tool.

    Anyone on the ignore list - does not receive a message because the system blocks the message from going out to that individual.

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    For those out there that wish to bash or slander xSky Software, LLC will have to deal with our lawyers, if you have an issue with an individual - whether it be an owner of xSky or not - take it up with them personally and leave xSky out of it.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinions - if you have never used xSky then how can you offer a review of the tool itself.

    Receiving messages via Skype does not necessary mean that it is coming from xSky - there are other API applications that do the same thing that the xSky tool does - only better in my opinion.

    Again - you should accept the fact that xSky is not going anywhere and we will work to help ensure that xSky Software Applications are being used in the proper manner.

    In all reality - it comes down to the individual users of these types of tools that cause the issues not the tool itself.

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  12. Oh one more note that the xSky Tool does not do anything that Skype does not provide in the first place with the exception of sending out messages all at once which is nothing more than a loop function in the software.

    @ Matthew Eaves -

    You can or used to be able to do a search by name, location, etc within Skype itself to find others with the same name, from the same location, etc.

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  13. For some reason this did not post - it was suppose to go before the previous comment.

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    Hello James -

    In your title here and in your video - you are asking is xSky Spam? or is it a real tool?

    First xSky itself should not be referenced to as spam.

    Spam is:

    1 - the act of sending electronic junk mail: an unsolicited, often commercial, message transmitted through the Internet as a mass mailing to a large number of recipients.

    2 - send unwanted e-mail: to send an unsolicited e-mail message, often an advertisement, to many people

    3 - post unwanted electronic messages: to post a message many times to a newsgroup, or an inappropriate message to multiple newsgroups


    As by definition of SPAM - xSky is not SPAM it is a tool.

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    Now I do agree that there are people who are actually using xSky software to send SPAM and when it is brought to our attention we take corrective actions.

    As with everything - you have the right to choose not to receive messages from whom ever you do not want to.... if after requesting that they stop sending you messages and the continue to do so, the best thing would be to contact xSky support and let us know and we will take corrective actions to stop it.

    The xSky tool was never meant to be used in a fashion that some are using it for.

    I for one - use it to send broadcasts out to different groups that has requested to receive my broadcast on that particular subject. Sending the messages out one by one would be to time consuming.

    And of course - if they do not wish to receive the broadcast any longer than simply request to be removed from the list, and I respect their decision and take them off my list.

    You can ask Craig Caron - he asked me to not send him any broadcasts and I added him to my do not send to/ignore list built into the xSky tool.

    Anyone on the ignore list - does not receive a message because the system blocks the message from going out to that individual.

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    For those out there that wish to bash or slander xSky Software, LLC will have to deal with our lawyers, if you have an issue with an individual - whether it be an owner of xSky or not - take it up with them personally and leave xSky out of it.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinions - if you have never used xSky then how can you offer a review of the tool itself.

    Receiving messages via Skype does not necessary mean that it is coming from xSky - there are other API applications that do the same thing that the xSky tool does - only better in my opinion.

    Again - you should accept the fact that xSky is not going anywhere and we will work to help ensure that xSky Software Applications are being used in the proper manner.

    In all reality - it comes down to the individual users of these types of tools that cause the issues not the tool itself.

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  14. Craig
    you made some very valid points. I didn't read the warrior forum I wished I had.

    As site or software owners we have to take credit for some of the things that may not be working correctly or being abused and the reason for this is because we also tend to take credit when something is successful.

    Jeff

    thank you too for being active and reaching out to people learning about this all.

    You are 100% right tools don’t spam people it takes a person to set it up.

    So let me also ask you Jeff again let me revert back to the videos above if you are aware your tools are being used to spam (for the lack of a better word) or unsolicited people on skype why then wouldn’t you modify or remove that feature all together?

    I ask this not as an attack but more of a middle ground with the market being split in this Niche do you thing you could capture or convert more people with some modifications to the Tool so that is is not the tool of choice for people wanting to use it in ways it may not have been intended.


    Randy

    I believe that function is to find people you already Know or have an existing relationship with not to send an ads too.

    This is the function I have been talking about that might fetch more people to use and promote the product ethically this is a grey area

    I guess the question is Can Xsky function without the unsolicited element of the tool? And if so why not remove it and remove some of the controversy if not all.

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  15. I didn't see my post did I say something wrong? I thought I was objective in my posting. Apologize if it offended.

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  16. Networking - as a whole - is to communicate with existing contacts and to expand your contacts. To bring resources together and work in a combined effort to reach a common goal.

    It is taught be every supposedly big time marketer - 'Your Money is in Your List' - it is everywhere - it is what online marketers are taught to do "Build Your List".

    xSky is being criticized based on actions of un-professional marketers sending SPAM -

    Again as I have said earlier - xSky is not the cause of SPAM - it is the people that are sending SPAM. They will send it with or without xSky.

    I get ads, links, opportunities, daily inspirational messages, poems, famous quotes, etc everyday from the people on my list - if I don't want to receive the messages I will ask to be removed from their list OR I will REMOVE them from my contact list and block them. A real simple function built right into Skype.

    I do not condone sending SPAM - in fact I straight out dislike it - however criticizing and bashing a company for someones actions is not right.

    You have to me on someones contact list in order for the xSky tool or in Skype itself to send someone a message.

    SPAM lies on the shoulder of the sender not the tool being used to send it - if that was the case then we need to get rid of email, auto-responders, TV, Radio, Snail Mail, even the internet itself........

    I can go on and on - but why......

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  17. Nice Blog James Dias, thanks for this post.

    Nice to see this discussion once again.

    I will answer this question to the best of my ability and give my personal opinion and view.

    NO xSky is not a Spam tool.

    I send out broadcasts at-least 3 times a week a and the people that receive them expect to receive my broadcasts. I send out good content and value to people that I have built online relationships mostly with Skype. These people do not consider my broadcasts as "spam".

    It all depends on your list really... And the relationships you already have.... You can not broadcast a sales link out of nowhere to your list if you never even said hi to the person in the last 6 months. It is common sense really. List building is an art and a science and needs to be done skillfully. You must first build relationships with people of course.

    One point a lot of people miss also is that when you accept someone as a contact on Skype you essentially agree to receive messages from them. If you don't like the messages someone sends you on Skype there is a block button for that... rather if they sent the message with xSky or with regular Skype.

    People spam people all the time on Skype with out the use of xSky. They simply copy and paste a sales message over and over and send to to many people. You do not have to use xSky to be able to "spam" on Skype.

    xSky was actually made because we wanted something better then Message Magic. I showed Jeff Message Magic on a screen share.. and he said "I can make something better" We wanted something more stable and with more features.

    Jeff added and ignore list feature to xSky that makes it a lot like Email marketing. People can actually opt out of a broadcast list. xSky has a lot more features in it to make it less a spam tool and more a Skype list building and organizing tool. The broadcaster is only one feature of many.

    xSky also is a great Skype contact organization tool. The features in xSky make it the most advanced software for marketers to use with Skype.

    We actually do not teach people to "spam" and if you can catch one of the company training webinars you can see what we teach. We do not want people to spam with xSky!

    We have said that we will cancel someone's accounts if they get too many spam complaints.. But really that is Skype's job...and they will cancel an account if too many report abuse are clicked.

    We do teach people the right ways to use xSky. It really is a very powerful tool. I really love being apart of xSky Software LLC.

    Wow...I got long winded..

    That is my views and my 2 cents on xSky.

    Thanks again James Dias, nice Blog :-)

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  18. James

    I completely understand where you are coming from. And this is in no way an attack either: Taking the Broadcaster function out of xSky, would be the same as taking the Send Mail function out of Outlook.

    Outlook is some sort of a Contact Manager too, but essentially it's an E-Mail program, and without the Send Mail function, why would people use it when there are other programs that do?

    Randy has a membership site, it's basically like a magazine. When people sign up for that, and provide their Skype ID, they agree that they want messages from his program. So he uses xSky to import the list of people who "opted in", and he sends them the Newsletter over Skype. Why? Because not only is he sure it wont go to spam, but he can easily engage in a conversation with his list. That is the true power of xSky right there.

    Even I, xSky Creator, use the Block & Report button in Skype! :)

    All we can do right now, is hope that the mis-informed people will swallow their pride, and realize that they just did not have the facts from the source itself.

    I hope that answers your Question, James. :)

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  19. To all those people out there who have read posts on the web regarding the programme xSky, this is intended for your education.

    Skype is a communication tool to connect with family friends and business people around the globe. What xSky has brought to the party is a programme that marketers can use to connect with like minded people sharing ideas, tips and solutions to help them become more successful in what they are doing to drive traffic to their opportunities.

    One thing you have to consider is that like with everything there are going to be people who will demote or criticise regardless of whether or not they have actually tested the product or service out. These are people who thrive on negative energy and do not get far in life. They have so much hate and disharmony in their lives whom they cannot envisage or understand anything good....no matter what.

    xSky is a downloadable piece of software that allows you to communicate with your contact list by broadcasting message to more than one person at a time. This saves time and energy, and if those people who profess to be marketers can't see this as a great tool, then they are not any kind of marketer you would want to be associated with.

    If you have doubts about this fine piece of genius software, do yourself a favour and jump on board and test it out before jumping to conclusions. Of course you should be aware of the xSky and Skype TOS before broadcasting, that way you will not be in Jeopardy of losing your accounts from either.

    If you have any further questions and want answers, please contact me on Skype, my ID is voxy-lady.

    To Your Success
    Leonie Easterbrook aka VoxyLady

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  20. To all those people out there who have read posts on the web regarding the programme xSky, this is intended for your education.

    Skype is a communication tool to connect with family friends and business people around the globe. What xSky has brought to the party is a programme that marketers can use to connect with like minded people sharing ideas, tips and solutions to help them become more successful in what they are doing to drive traffic to their opportunities.

    One thing you have to consider is that like with everything there are going to be people who will demote or criticise regardless of whether or not they have actually tested the product or service out. These are people who thrive on negative energy and do not get far in life. They have so much hate and disharmony in their lives whom they cannot envisage or understand anything good....no matter what.

    xSky is a downloadable piece of software that allows you to communicate with your contact list by broadcasting message to more than one person at a time. This saves time and energy, and if those people who profess to be marketers can't see this as a great tool, then they are not any kind of marketer you would want to be associated with.

    If you have doubts about this fine piece of genius software, do yourself a favour and jump on board and test it out before jumping to conclusions. Of course you should be aware of the xSky and Skype TOS before broadcasting, that way you will not be in Jeopardy of losing your accounts from either.

    If you have any further questions and want answers, please contact me on Skype, my ID is voxy-lady.

    To Your Success
    Leonie Easterbrook aka VoxyLady

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  21. I think it is crystal clear that xSky is a great tool. :-)

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